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== Pandemrix should not be used because of narcolepsy risk ==

 Anna, Sallamari

{{discussion
|Statements= Pandemrix should not be used any more anywhere because its narcolepsy risk is too high. NOTE! The time of the statement is September 2010.
|Resolution=  Not accepted mainly because risks are small and benefits high.
|Argumentation =

{{attack|J1 |Despite risks, Pandemrix is an effective vaccine and has clearly net positive effects in countries where emergency treatment is poorly available for severe swine flu cases.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST)}}

{{defend invalid|J2 |The reputation of Pandemrix is globally so poor that it is impossible to use it any more.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST)}}

:{{attack|E9 |The information supplied on the safety and effectiveness of three of the pandemic-influenza vaccines was considered complete enough for the Agency's Committee for Medicinal Products for Human Use  to recommend their use outside a pandemic situation. |--[[User:Anna Kokkonen|Anna Kokkonen]] 11:10, 1 April 2011 (EEST)}} <ref name="emaswineflu">[http://www.ema.europa.eu/ema/index.jsp?curl=pages/special_topics/general/general_content_000461.jsp&murl=menus/special_topics/special_topics.jsp&mid=WC0b01ac05801d7bfe&jsenabled=true European Medicines Agency (EMA)]: Information page on Swine flu</ref>

::{{comment|# |I am not sure if this is a convincing argument about reputation. However, you may want to create a new argument about the safety of Pandemrix, and then it would be defended by this argument.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 08:15, 2 April 2011 (EEST)}}

:{{defend|J3 |In Finland, THL decided to stop the use of Pandemrix.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST)}} <ref name="thl20100825">[http://www.thl.fi/en_US/web/en/pressrelease?id=22930 THL press release 25 Aug 2010]</ref>

{{attack|E6 |The vaccination used last year will most likely protect also against the possible swine flu epidemic of this year, although the virus has changed a bit.|--[[User:Sallamari Tynkkynen|Sallamari Tynkkynen]] 10:57, 1 April 2011 (EEST)}} <ref name="thl20101209">[http://www.thl.fi/fi_FI/web/fi/uutinen?id=23692 THL press release 9 Dec 2010]</ref>

:{{comment|# |This may be true but what is the connection to the statement?|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 08:15, 2 April 2011 (EEST)}}

:{{defend|E7 |Vaccination is a very good method of preventing swine flu infections.|--[[User:Sallamari Tynkkynen|Sallamari Tynkkynen]] 10:59, 1 April 2011 (EEST)}} <ref name="thl20101209"/>

:{{defend|E8 |WHO recommended that H1N1 virus strain be included in the seasonal flu vaccines for the 2009/2010 season, because H1N1 is still in circulation, but behaving like a seasonal flu virus. |--[[User:Anna Kokkonen|Anna Kokkonen]] 11:10, 1 April 2011 (EEST)}} <ref name="emaswineflu"/>

{{attack|E4 |The side effects of Pandemrix have been accentuated, although the benefits are much more significant.|--[[User:Sallamari Tynkkynen|Sallamari Tynkkynen]] 10:50, 1 April 2011 (EEST)}} <ref name="hsarkkiatri">[http://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/artikkeli/MTV3+Arkkiatri+moittii+sikainfluenssarokotteen+vastustajia/1135250236010 Helsingin Sanomat]: Arkkiatri moittii sikainfluenssarokotteen vastustajia (in Finnish)</ref>

{{attack|E5 |Nursing staff in hospitals should be vaccinated; it is their responsibility as medical professionals.|--[[User:Sallamari Tynkkynen|Sallamari Tynkkynen]] 10:54, 1 April 2011 (EEST)}} <ref name="hsarkkiatri"/>

:{{comment|# |This may be true but what is the connection to the statement? Does this actually relate more to E4 than the main statement?|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 08:15, 2 April 2011 (EEST)}}

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==See also==

*[http://www.ema.europa.eu/ema/index.jsp?curl=pages/special_topics/general/general_content_000461.jsp&murl=menus/special_topics/special_topics.jsp&mid=WC0b01ac05801d7bfe&jsenabled=true European Medicines Agency (EMA) information page on Swine flu]
*[http://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/artikkeli/MTV3+Arkkiatri+moittii+sikainfluenssarokotteen+vastustajia/1135250236010]
*[http://www.thl.fi/fi_FI/web/fi/uutinen?id=23692]

==References==

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