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<noinclude>The template | <noinclude>The template was in transition phase. The '''Dispute''' is now called '''Statements''' and '''Outcome''' is called '''Resolution'''. The old parameters are no longer valid, but there should not be any left on the pages. If Resolution is missing, then the text says: "Resolution not yet found". The openness of the discussion no longer depends on the existence of the resolution. Actually, the whole idea of discussions being "open" or "closed" is misleading and is abandoned. Instead, there is a new parameter, "Resolved". If it has content, such as "Yes", the page will be categorised into [[:Category:Resolved discussions]]. This means that the current resolution has been updated to the main page (and this is mentioned on the page). If it is empty, the page will be categorised to [[:Category:Ongoing discussions]], and the resolution should be updated to the main page. | ||
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{{attack_invalid|1|I have doubts about Resolution being better than Outcome. Do we want to separate between closed discussions (dispute not resolved, but the current outcome is included in the information object); and resolved discussions (only one statement is valid after the discussion)? We must think about this. (|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 07:18, 22 November 2009 (UTC)}} | {{attack_invalid|1|I have doubts about Resolution being better than Outcome. Do we want to separate between closed discussions (dispute not resolved, but the current outcome is included in the information object); and resolved discussions (only one statement is valid after the discussion)? We must think about this. (|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 07:18, 22 November 2009 (UTC)}} | ||
:{{attack|4 |The main reason for changing outcome to resolution is that outcome can be outcome of anything (a model, calulation, a study), but resolution is specifically the outcome of a discussion. In this context, the word resolution does not tell anything about the status of the discussion (ongoing, | :{{attack|4 |The main reason for changing outcome to resolution is that outcome can be outcome of anything (a model, calulation, a study), but resolution is specifically the outcome of a discussion. In this context, the word resolution does not tell anything about the status of the discussion (ongoing, static, updated to main pageresolved etc.)|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 16:17, 3 January 2010 (UTC)}} | ||
:{{defend|2 |Outcome could be the outcome of discussion, either "Accepted", "Not accepted", or something more complex. Resolution could be "Yes" or empty, yes meaning that only one statement is valid and resolution was found. So, we need two parameters to reflect the outcome well. This way, we could have three categories: open, closed, and resolved discussions.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 07:27, 22 November 2009 (UTC)}} | :{{defend|2 |Outcome could be the outcome of discussion, either "Accepted", "Not accepted", or something more complex. Resolution could be "Yes" or empty, yes meaning that only one statement is valid and resolution was found. So, we need two parameters to reflect the outcome well. This way, we could have three categories: open, closed, and resolved discussions.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 07:27, 22 November 2009 (UTC)}} | ||
:{{comment|3 |So we should have Outcome and Resolution?|--[[User:Juha Villman|Juha Villman]] 08:42, 23 November 2009 (UTC)}} | :{{comment|3 |So we should have Outcome and Resolution?|--[[User:Juha Villman|Juha Villman]] 08:42, 23 November 2009 (UTC)}} | ||
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Revision as of 19:54, 3 January 2010
| Statements:
Resolution: Resolution not yet found. (A stable resolution, when found, should be updated to the main page.) |
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The template was in transition phase. The Dispute is now called Statements and Outcome is called Resolution. The old parameters are no longer valid, but there should not be any left on the pages. If Resolution is missing, then the text says: "Resolution not yet found". The openness of the discussion no longer depends on the existence of the resolution. Actually, the whole idea of discussions being "open" or "closed" is misleading and is abandoned. Instead, there is a new parameter, "Resolved". If it has content, such as "Yes", the page will be categorised into Category:Resolved discussions. This means that the current resolution has been updated to the main page (and this is mentioned on the page). If it is empty, the page will be categorised to Category:Ongoing discussions, and the resolution should be updated to the main page.
| Statements: Resolution is the word for the outcome of a discussion.
Resolution: Accepted. (A stable resolution, when found, should be updated to the main page.) |
| Argumentation:
⇤--1: . I have doubts about Resolution being better than Outcome. Do we want to separate between closed discussions (dispute not resolved, but the current outcome is included in the information object); and resolved discussions (only one statement is valid after the discussion)? We must think about this. ( --Jouni 07:18, 22 November 2009 (UTC) (type: truth; paradigms: science: attack)
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