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==  -- [[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 11:39, 7 January 2008 (EET) ==
== Should all variables go to result distribution database? ==
== Should all variables go to result distribution database? ==


{{discussion
{{discussion
|Dispute= Not all variables should go to the result distribution database
|Statements= Not all variables should go to the result distribution database
|Outcome= Under discussion (to be changed when a conclusion is found)
|Outcome= Not accepted.
|Argumentation =
|Argumentation =
{{defend|#(1 P): |There should be two levels of variables: 1) The results of important variables are uploaded in the result database, and they should be coherent with each other. 2) Other variables that are less important are used in case-specific assessments. They don't need to be coherent with all variables in the result database, only with those within the same assessment.
{{defend_invalid|1 P|There should be two levels of variables: 1) The results of important variables are uploaded in the result database, and they should be coherent with each other. 2) Other variables that are less important are used in case-specific assessments. They don't need to be coherent with all variables in the result database, only with those within the same assessment.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 23:52, 20 August 2007 (EEST)}}
|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 23:52, 20 August 2007 (EEST)}}
:{{comment|2 P|How do you define an important variable? I see variable importance as a varying aspect, not absolute and often case-specific.|--[[User:Anna Karjalainen|Anna Karjalainen]] 14:17, 7 May 2008 (EEST)}}
{{comment|#(2 P): |How do you define an important variable? I see variable importance as a varying aspect, not absolute and often case-specific.|--[[User:Anna Karjalainen|Anna Karjalainen]] 14:17, 7 May 2008 (EEST)}}}}
:{{attack|3|There is no separation to important and less important variables. There are only variables, and they are described in [[Opasnet]]. All these also go to the Opasnet Base. Some variables are in an early developmental stage and there is nothing to put to the Base yet, but this does not change the principle. However, there are also intermediate nodes in models that are not described as variables. They do not go into the Base.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 08:22, 21 February 2009 (EET)}}
 
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==A tentative structure for the result database==
 
Old, poor idea: Each variable is a table; each row has a fixed number of rows that equal to iterations (random samples); each row in the index (using Analytica terminology) is a column in the table.
 
New, better idea was moved to [[Help:Variable]]. The structural suggestion was moved to [[Help:Result database]].

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Should all variables go to result distribution database?

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←--1 P: . There should be two levels of variables: 1) The results of important variables are uploaded in the result database, and they should be coherent with each other. 2) Other variables that are less important are used in case-specific assessments. They don't need to be coherent with all variables in the result database, only with those within the same assessment. --Jouni 23:52, 20 August 2007 (EEST) (type: truth; paradigms: science: defence)

----2 P: . How do you define an important variable? I see variable importance as a varying aspect, not absolute and often case-specific. --Anna Karjalainen 14:17, 7 May 2008 (EEST) (type: truth; paradigms: science: comment)
⇤--3: . There is no separation to important and less important variables. There are only variables, and they are described in Opasnet. All these also go to the Opasnet Base. Some variables are in an early developmental stage and there is nothing to put to the Base yet, but this does not change the principle. However, there are also intermediate nodes in models that are not described as variables. They do not go into the Base. --Jouni 08:22, 21 February 2009 (EET) (type: truth; paradigms: science: attack)