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{{attack|#(number): |Why is a model a description of the computation procedure and not the procedure as such? Or an "incarnation" or a "software"?|--[[User:Alexandra Kuhn|Alexandra Kuhn]] 12:12, 14 May 2008 (EEST)}} | {{attack|#(number): |Why is a model a description of the computation procedure and not the procedure as such? Or an "incarnation" or a "software"?|--[[User:Alexandra Kuhn|Alexandra Kuhn]] 12:12, 14 May 2008 (EEST)}} | ||
:{{comment|#(number): |Because the computation [[procedure]] is the '''doing''' of it (after you have taken the [[input]] to compute and before you have got the [[output]] as the result; the whole thing is a [[process]]). Or, in other words, the running of the software is a procedure, the software is a description of a procedure. But you are right, the definition is not very clear.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 22:07, 14 May 2008 (EEST)}} | :{{comment|#(number): |Because the computation [[procedure]] is the '''doing''' of it (after you have taken the [[input]] to compute and before you have got the [[output]] as the result; the whole thing is a [[process]]). Or, in other words, the running of the software is a procedure, the software is a description of a procedure. But you are right, the definition is not very clear.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 22:07, 14 May 2008 (EEST)}} | ||
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{{attack|#(1): |There is no such thing as structured and unstructured models.|--[[User:Alexandra Kuhn|Alexandra Kuhn]] 08:12, 10 June 2008 (EEST)}} | |||
Jouni: There are formally structured models (they are methods), and then there | |||
are informally structured model (they are not OA objects). Because of | |||
this, "model" is an ambiguous word and I try to avoid it in methodology | |||
text. The same applies to "tool". I don't like their current | |||
definitions (or, I don't see a reason to develop better definitions for | |||
them). | |||
How do you know if a model is structured or not???? I think, that there is not such thing as structured or unstructured models. I think the DESCRIPTION is structured or not. --[[User:Alexandra Kuhn|Alexandra Kuhn]] 08:12, 10 June 2008 (EEST) | |||
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Why description?
⇤--#(number):: . Why is a model a description of the computation procedure and not the procedure as such? Or an "incarnation" or a "software"? --Alexandra Kuhn 12:12, 14 May 2008 (EEST) (type: truth; paradigms: science: attack)
- ----#(number):: . Because the computation procedure is the doing of it (after you have taken the input to compute and before you have got the output as the result; the whole thing is a process). Or, in other words, the running of the software is a procedure, the software is a description of a procedure. But you are right, the definition is not very clear. --Jouni 22:07, 14 May 2008 (EEST) (type: truth; paradigms: science: comment)
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⇤--#(1):: . There is no such thing as structured and unstructured models. --Alexandra Kuhn 08:12, 10 June 2008 (EEST) (type: truth; paradigms: science: attack) Jouni: There are formally structured models (they are methods), and then there are informally structured model (they are not OA objects). Because of this, "model" is an ambiguous word and I try to avoid it in methodology text. The same applies to "tool". I don't like their current definitions (or, I don't see a reason to develop better definitions for them). How do you know if a model is structured or not???? I think, that there is not such thing as structured or unstructured models. I think the DESCRIPTION is structured or not. --Alexandra Kuhn 08:12, 10 June 2008 (EEST) |