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==Discussion with Rainer, Jouni, and Alex 6.7.2010==
==Discussion with Rainer, Jouni, and Alex 6.7.2010==
* Deadline for this part of MCS analysis: early September.
* Deadline for the MCS report: end of September


Three main topics for [[THL]] to assess in the [Mega case study]]:
Three main topics for [[THL]] to assess in the [Mega case study]]:
* concentration change of outdoor-to-indoor pollutants due to insulation  
# concentration change of outdoor-to-indoor pollutants due to insulation  
** Stuttgart has basic data on buildings, both Northern and Southern Europe. They will send information about them.
#* Stuttgart has basic data on buildings, both Northern and Southern Europe. They will send information about them.
** Estimates will be made by  THL about how fast the better insulation in buildings will change (rought estimate 1-2%/a of house stock gets improved)
#* Estimates will be made by  THL about how fast the better insulation in buildings will change (rought estimate 1-2%/a of house stock gets improved)
*** Based on this, changes in ventilation will be estimated. Easiest is to calculate old and new/renovated buildings separately with high/low ventilation? Another aspect is incoming air filtration, which reduces some pollutants. How many houses are better insulated?
#** Based on this, changes in ventilation will be estimated. Easiest is to calculate old and new/renovated buildings separately with high/low ventilation? Another aspect is incoming air filtration, which reduces some pollutants. How many houses are better insulated?
** Matti has building and heating information from several countries. In addition, Otto has done work on Finnish ventilation and insulation issues. Jouni will task with both of them.
#* Matti has building and heating information from several countries. In addition, Otto has done work on Finnish ventilation and insulation issues. Jouni will talk with both of them.
** Jouni will check Ullas work on radon mould.
#* Jouni will check Ullas work on radon mould.
** Make sure that all relevant pollutants are included: formaldehyde, environmental tobacco smoke, radon, PM. do we have background concentrations? Jouni will talk with Matti.
#* Make sure that all relevant pollutants are included: formaldehyde, environmental tobacco smoke, radon, PM, others?. Do we have background concentrations? Jouni will talk with Matti.
** Who calculates the whole chain? THL based on Hilary's and Fintan's [[ERF]]s.
#* Who calculates the whole chain? THL based on Hilary's and Fintan's [[ERF]]s.
** The official MCS scenarios have insulation, marcus ustutt energy modeller has insulaton data. comes from
#* The official MCS scenarios have insulation, Marcus from Ustutt (energy modeller) has some insulaton data. Jouni will ask for that.
* wood burning more ->more pm?
# Due to bioenergy emphasis, there will be more wood burning ->more pm?
** more wood burning as a source to indoor air  
#* More wood burning as a source to indoor air directly
** cenral stoves vs open stoves in the room latter has high emissions to indoor air. marko
#* Cenral stoves are not bad in this but open stoves in the room are. They may have high emissions to indoor air. Jouni will ask Marko, as he has made some estimates already.
** look both indooor especially and outdoor emissions
#* Look also at the outdoor emissions.
** centel south europe
#* Question: where do we get data for Central and South Europe? Jouni will talk with Marko.
marko!
#* 10 % (of what) in stuttgart comes from wood burning.
** 10 % in stuttgart comes from wood burning
# Urban heat islands
* heat island
#* Jouni will get data from Sandra. Data already exists for also other than year 2005. Data is in EMEP grid (and is hourly?)
** get data from sandra emep grid hourly temp
#** Ustutt will come back to this within a day and tell what can be provided.
stutt tells what can provide
 
dl analysis early sept
report ready end sept

Revision as of 09:37, 6 July 2010

Discussion with Rainer, Jouni, and Alex 6.7.2010

  • Deadline for this part of MCS analysis: early September.
  • Deadline for the MCS report: end of September

Three main topics for THL to assess in the [Mega case study]]:

  1. concentration change of outdoor-to-indoor pollutants due to insulation
    • Stuttgart has basic data on buildings, both Northern and Southern Europe. They will send information about them.
    • Estimates will be made by THL about how fast the better insulation in buildings will change (rought estimate 1-2%/a of house stock gets improved)
      • Based on this, changes in ventilation will be estimated. Easiest is to calculate old and new/renovated buildings separately with high/low ventilation? Another aspect is incoming air filtration, which reduces some pollutants. How many houses are better insulated?
    • Matti has building and heating information from several countries. In addition, Otto has done work on Finnish ventilation and insulation issues. Jouni will talk with both of them.
    • Jouni will check Ullas work on radon mould.
    • Make sure that all relevant pollutants are included: formaldehyde, environmental tobacco smoke, radon, PM, others?. Do we have background concentrations? Jouni will talk with Matti.
    • Who calculates the whole chain? THL based on Hilary's and Fintan's ERFs.
    • The official MCS scenarios have insulation, Marcus from Ustutt (energy modeller) has some insulaton data. Jouni will ask for that.
  2. Due to bioenergy emphasis, there will be more wood burning ->more pm?
    • More wood burning as a source to indoor air directly
    • Cenral stoves are not bad in this but open stoves in the room are. They may have high emissions to indoor air. Jouni will ask Marko, as he has made some estimates already.
    • Look also at the outdoor emissions.
    • Question: where do we get data for Central and South Europe? Jouni will talk with Marko.
    • 10 % (of what) in stuttgart comes from wood burning.
  3. Urban heat islands
    • Jouni will get data from Sandra. Data already exists for also other than year 2005. Data is in EMEP grid (and is hourly?)
      • Ustutt will come back to this within a day and tell what can be provided.
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